that the National Church is sending out fundraising letters for litigation? No kidding.
Greg Griffith at Stand Firm posted this:
This letter (posted with permission) was sent from TEC‘s national headquarters to an attorney in Mississippi last week, soliciting donations to fund lawsuits against departing dioceses and parishes.
That’s right… St. Ives, the Patron Saint of Property Litigation. Who no doubt was beatified so things like this might result from invoking his name.
And all God’s people said: ?
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That makes me want to throw up. How is that biblical in any sense of the word? Oh wait…they make the bible say whatever they want it to. I forgot – silly me.
That is just too bizarre. What will they do next?
As I was going to St. Ives,
I met a woman with seven… lawyers.
Each lawyer had seven… torts.
Each tort had seven… parishes.
Each parish had seven… co-defendants.
Defendants, parishes, torts, lawyers:
How many will survive St. Ives?
(OK, so, it needs work… But then, so does the DFMS…)
wow under the heading “Mission Funding” is now this. What about unreached people groups? What about the gospel?
I suppose it was inevitable that the retirement fund (or whatever hoard they’ve been looting – in love, of course) would prove to be finite. [Has anyone invited the federal authorities to initiate an audit of the retirement system at TEC yet?]
The inference that they are only trying to protect historic property is, of course, the Twelfth Commandment – the Eleventh being to depose faithful Bishops on the pretext of abandonment of the faith. The patients have indeed seized control of the asylum.
and somewhere, in a dark place, God’s Word is not being proclaimed.
Though when the Word is a secondary issue (at best) to how we “feel,” should I really be surprised.
“they” swear they have not touched the Retirement Fund, and the Fund Directors agree. However, they are pretty much looting the “endowments”, some for the “principle” when its allowed, others for the
earnings. Don’t remember where I read it, but probably on Stand Firm
Grandmother
And, anyway, what is the Domestic and Foreign Missionary Society??
Grandmother
I believe the “Domestic and Foreign Missionary Society” sounds a lot like the actual name of PECUSA when first chartered which caused an uproar when the First Promise folks (Terrell Glenn, Chuck Murphy and their merry band) tried to incorporate an entity under the name, “The Episcopal Church” – which at the time wasn’t being formally used by anyone. It was fun to watch – but didn’t stick. As to the endowments, etc, I’m not sure anyone outside of 815 really has an accounting re the source of their litigation funding. A group of bishops have been demanding an audit for years with no result but stony silence. 815 has had an individual embezzlement scandal before – but not (to my knowledge) by institutional policy. Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest given their repeatedly demonstrated lack of biblical Christian ethical standards.
And Jesus wept…
Where’s the creativity? How about selling candy bars for $1? Car washes in the church parking lot? Auctioning clergy to help with yard work? Or selling the rights to sit in the closest pew in the church?…Nevermind, those up front are always open already.
Anyway, just a bit disappointed with the lack of creative fund raising.
In regard to the title of this post, unfortunately, yes… I *can* believe it. And all God’s people said “Lord, have MERCY…”
The Episcopal Civic Group strikes again.
I just wonder how long we argue over whether someone else is biblical instead of walking away from the property and the fight inviting those who believe and following what’s right?
Is the argument and fight for the sake of property or lives? Because it really looks like a property fight to me.
If we continue to participate are we following the Word or are we just also standing in judgment and fighting for earthly kingdoms?
Matthew 4: 1-19 Satan told Jesus to throw himself down from the highest point in the holy city, Jesus refused.
Then satan invited Him to grab a hold of the worldly kindgoms (property). Jesus refused.
Instead Jesus, with no worldly possession, walked beside the sea of Galilee and invited the fishermen (who understand as few do the nature of living from paycheck to paycheck based on daily-work not on what they have stored up for later) to come with him and become “Fisher’s of Men.” To build His body.
Leaving behind the security and beauty and splendor of the old temples they preached in open air and were a new body in Christ.
Christ is head of the church, if that is not so, I believe in leaving the earthly kingdom to the those pharisees who would have it and “giving myself up to [Him] by washing of water with the word so that I may present myself to Him as a radiant body without stain or wrinkle or blemish… For we are members of His body!”
and counting on the truth:
Matthew 6: 19-34 Christ told us not to store treasures on earth…
what is the structure of a church other than an earthly treasure?
Fight to keep the people waking in the word!
He said don’t worry about what you will wear, what you will eat and drink, life is more important that food and clothes…
What are we fighting for? What are we willing to risk to follow His Word?
40 days of discernment?
Do yourself a favor. Watch today’s speech by Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu at the UN. He aggressively confronts the bankrupt moral vacuum at the UN. There is a clear parallel with the current leadership of the Obama administration. This parallel extends to our experience with TEC.
As long we continue to bathe in the same cesspool that is TEC, we risk becoming polluted in every corner of our own spiritual experience. We cannot afford this.
The solution: Act today. Leave this corrupt organization. Confront the future with courage individually and corporately. Use the 40 Days of Discernment to discern how the Holy Spirit is guiding us to function moving forward without TEC, not discernment as to whether we should leave or not. This is a noble cause.
If you want a model of courage and determination, watch Benjamin Netanyahu.
This is not about the Kingdom of God but the Kingdom of Man “assets contributed and maintained over centuries…” It appears that the National Church is far more concerned with the assets of their flock than their souls …
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