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Mark Cooke said in July 15th, 2009 at 8:32 am

My only question about Wright’s statement – why couldn’t he & everyone had made the same declaration in 2003, when TEC consecrated Vicki Gene?

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Nyle said in July 15th, 2009 at 8:40 am

Steve,
We are not only in a state of broken communion but now have to recognize that we do not worship or even acknowledge the same god. I think the opportunity for rebuking and discipline is gone and we need to sorrowfully realize this.

1SA 15:23 For rebellion is like the sin of divination, and arrogance like
the evil of idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the LORD, he
has rejected you as king.”
ROM 1:22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools

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Andrew E. said in July 15th, 2009 at 8:44 am

again maybe i’m at a misunderstanding but with regards to their (TEC) defeating the uniqueness of Christ…

doesn’t God’s Word, which i seem to recall is infallible say this…

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6 NIV).

Seems that the whole Holy Scriptures is a rather burdensome formality to TEC (and more and more churches, increasingly).

Steve, this might be a question that I can meet with you to discuss further, but as I strongly feel lead to St. Andrews as my church home, how do I handle the actions of TEC?

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Louise Ballard said in July 15th, 2009 at 9:30 am

Wow, maybe anticipated, but still so hard to watch unfold. Makes you wonder where TEC will go from here … be careful what you wish for, TEC. So, when should we expect that response that you referred to from Bsp Lawrence?

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Steve said in July 15th, 2009 at 9:37 am

Good question, Louise.

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KimL said in July 15th, 2009 at 10:04 am

>>(with) St. Andrews as my church home, how do I handle the actions of TEC?

>>when should we expect that response that you referred to from Bsp Lawrence?

I think many of us are wondering, and waiting, and praying…

Thanks Steve for being there for us all & for the Lord. You & the rest of the GC continue to be in our constant prayers.

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Steve said in July 15th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

The bishops response that I wrote of the other night was this: he would wait until convention is over, because there is more bad legislation out there, and he would address the clergy first on a clergy day he’s called in mid August.

Secondarily, the bishop did instruct the SC Canon Theologian, Kendall Harmon, to post a statement of repudiation on the diocesan website. If it’s not up it should be soon. http://www.dioceseofsc.org

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doug said in July 15th, 2009 at 8:35 pm

And so the TEC further erases any doubt in one’s mind that they are not a mono-theistic organization but rather a poly-theistic one.

In what appears to be continued strivings and engagement done in the name of diversity but rather truly ring of sameness, the abandonement of solid, differentiated biblical doctrine paints a picture similiar to Narcissus, dazed and lost in the reflection of his own image. It is in this undifferentiated state that the TEC’s motivation is revealed with greater clarity: to seek, create and declare it’s own source of power outside of any dependency upon God or in the hope of His faithfulness evidenced in His word, lest they be called into true, differentiated relationship with others and with God himself – a truly terrifying challenge for an tempermental infant.

I think I read that Bishop Lawrence indicated that the convention went as he expected – this doesn’t give me much hope in his future response.
Let’s hope and pray otherwise.

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Judy Thornton said in July 16th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

None of this is surprising! I expect this to drag on for years to come.

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JoeS said in July 19th, 2009 at 4:17 pm

Does anybody remember Flip Wilson and his “Church of What’s Happening Now?” He was a prophet. Instead of our denomination indomitable, she has, like Flip’s church, conformed to the world. But God has sent us many knight-errants. Champions that fear not, and to quote Don Quixote, are willing “To march into hell for a heavenly cause.” I suggest we pray for those who have lost their way, being beguiled by the perplexities of this world and the ruler thereof. And yes, pray for our Knight, Steve, who has shown his mettle. God continue to give him wisdom, courage, and the energy to endure.