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Tom M said in February 15th, 2012 at 12:29 pm

While many of us won’t be terribly suprised, it is staggering to see these kinds of numbers. It is one among many other reminders that we truly have a responsibility and urgency to the very mission of engaging and inviting those that are seperated from a God who wants them. I stood with 160 men 2 weeks ago at our St. Andrew’s Men’s Retreat, various ages, backgrounds, color, etc. and we said “no” to a world that constantly does not see the need for men to step back into a leadership role. Whether that is their family, their friends, their community. We were challenged to believe and live into the understanding that we are His beloved, and that (in Christ) He is pleased with us. Very powerful and hard for many of the guys. I came away from that weekend with much more hope about the men at least in our community in Mt. Pleasant.

What if every guy at that retreat, invited 3 other men to come join an outing, a hike, a service, a run, or anything that engages and builds relationship? If only half the guys decided to invite, and only one out of 3 accepted an invite, that would be be 80 guys invited into a relationship and potentially a life changing relationship. Why wouldn’t we do that!. Kurtz, quick, issue the challenge! :)

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Michael said in February 15th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

A disheartening truth, no doubt. Our plant is 55% male and an average age of 30. How? Three “easy” steps: a) have too much ministry to do to allow folks to sit on the side lines; b) be a church plant that must schlep chairs, set-up a sound system, install signs in the cold and heat; c) preach the Gospel, straight up, no mixers; no apologies. Men respond because, well, uhhh, we’re men: we like to “do;” we like to fix problem and fill needs; we need the Gospel to counter our self-reliance and independence.

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Mikayala said in February 15th, 2012 at 2:19 pm

If one listens to Mark Driscoll, he starts yelling at men to get themselves manly. Haha.

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Kathy said in February 15th, 2012 at 2:20 pm

Numbers have a way of telling a story. What we acknowledge, we can change, right? If ever there was a time to make a difference, could it be now?

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John said in February 15th, 2012 at 2:20 pm

I don’t think it’s just the church, I think western nations are hurting for men. Particularly ours.

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Peter said in February 15th, 2012 at 2:22 pm

It is the feminisation of western culture with the church following the trend rather than leading the way.

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Danny said in February 15th, 2012 at 3:27 pm

They don’t want to sing “I’m desperate for youuuuuu-uuu”. Lots of men are turned off with theatrics. I absolutely know when I am being manipulated, especially in an institutional setting. The Holy Spirit can’t be begged.

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Miss Sippi said in February 15th, 2012 at 7:16 pm

When I began attending an Eastern Orthodox church here in South Mississippi, I was immediately struck by the number of men in the congregation. We are a small group, mostly converts, in the South, so we aren’t a typical Orthodox body, but now that we have a mission going in another city, the same thing is holding true. (I’ve heard it said that Orthodoxy is a bit like the Marine Corps of churches, and men, particularly younger men, respond to its discipline and demands.)

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Greg Smith said in February 15th, 2012 at 7:54 pm

I think Michael is onto the answer… In our church plant in CO we were similarly 55% + men… and I think Holy Cross might be close to that as well.

I think when you have not just Gospel preaching but Gospel “work” to do, then men respond. If not… then you bore them!

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john said in February 16th, 2012 at 12:15 am

Not surprized at the stats. The last time I was in San Francisco and went to an early mass at Grace Cathedral every person behind the altar rail was a female: priestesses,deaconesses, acolytes all. Tough for a man to not notice, and to not notice that he was probably one of the couple of straight guys in the 30-40 people present. Straight being identified only as not holding hands with another person of the same sex.

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Steve said in February 16th, 2012 at 8:17 am

@Greg – I’d be careful talking about “work” – even Gospel “work” – around HC. Some pretty radical Lutherans over there ;)

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Danny said in February 16th, 2012 at 9:14 am

Gospel “work”??? That will usually be defined as something other than you are currently doing. For instance, staying married, raising kids in the faith, etc. all hard work but very boring from the pulpit.

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Olivia said in February 16th, 2012 at 9:18 am

One more stat for you… 8 to 1 ratio of women to men on the mission field.

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Kathy said in February 16th, 2012 at 11:49 am

In part, it is also a long term historical trend. Historian Callum Brown, in “The Death of Christian Britain” has an interesting chapter on the ways in which, in the late 18th c. women came to be seen as the more “spiritual” sex. Women were “naturally” spiritual, men had to learn to become so.

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Julie said in February 16th, 2012 at 11:49 am

What men?

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Steve said in February 16th, 2012 at 11:50 am

Interesting bit of information, Kathy. I’ll have to look for the book on google books.

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Peter said in February 16th, 2012 at 11:50 am

Haven’t read the book – yet – but the ideas this review puts across makes it sound for interesting reading http://www.history.ac.uk/reviews/review/236 I like the idea of ‘discourse’ what I would call the ‘story’. The ‘man’ is bad spiritually – and following science, psychology or pretty much anything in popular media and culture ‘man’ is seen as inferior now in Britain. It doesn’t mean there is equality for women in all areas though but church is perceived for men who are a little less man like. Me talking about mountain walking seems to shock people inside and outside the church!

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Ken said in February 16th, 2012 at 4:21 pm

In 1966, I entered the Army as a chaplain. Of course in chapels located in male troop areas, one expected men to outnumber the women by a large percentage, which they did. (Some wives of the Officers and NCOs would attend troop chapels with their husbands.) What was a pleasant surprise, which I observed over the next 23 years, was that the ratio of men and women in the family chapels was essential the same—far, far different from my previous experience in the civilian church.