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		<title>Quotable: Phillips Brooks</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 14:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Religious people read thin, superficial books of religious sentiment, but do not meet face to face the strong, exacting, masculine pages of their Bibles.&#8221; How true. What books would you place on this list of &#8220;thin, superficial books of religious sentiment?&#8221;  I&#8217;d begin with these three recent books: The Shack, The Secret and Heaven is for [...]]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;Religious people read thin, superficial books of religious sentiment, but do not meet face to face the strong, exacting, masculine pages of their Bibles.&#8221;</p>
<p>How true.</p>
<p>What books would you place on this list of &#8220;thin, superficial books of religious sentiment?&#8221;  I&#8217;d begin with these three recent books: <em>The Shack</em>, <em>The Secret</em> and <em>Heaven is for Real</em></p>
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		<title>Spurgeon on Calvinists and Arminians</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 09:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“The doctrines of original sin, election, effectual calling, final perseverance, and all those great truths which are called Calvinism — though Calvin was not the author of them, but simply an able writer and preacher upon the subject — are, I believe, the essential doctrines of the Gospel that is in Jesus Christ. Now, I [...]]]></description>
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<p>“The doctrines of original sin, election, effectual calling, final perseverance, and all those great truths which are called Calvinism — though Calvin was not the author of them, but simply an able writer and preacher upon the subject — are, I believe, the essential doctrines of the Gospel that is in Jesus Christ. Now, I do not ask you whether you believe all this — it is possible you may not; but I believe you will before you enter heaven. I am persuaded, that as God may have washed your hearts, he will wash your brains before you enter heaven.”</p>
<p>“They are all Calvinists there [in heaven], every soul of them. They may have been Arminians on earth; thousands and millions of them were; but they are not after they get there.”</p>
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		<title>Chesterton on Misplaced Humility</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 09:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“What we suffer from today is humility in the wrong place. Modesty has moved from the organ of ambition. Modesty has settled upon the organ of conviction; where it was never meant to be. A man was meant to be doubtful about himself, but undoubting about the truth; this has been exactly reversed. Nowadays the [...]]]></description>
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<p> “What we suffer from today is humility in the wrong place. Modesty has moved from the organ of ambition. Modesty has settled upon the organ of conviction; where it was never meant to be. A man was meant to be doubtful about himself, but undoubting about the truth; this has been exactly reversed. Nowadays the part of a man that a man does assert is exactly the part he ought not to assert – himself. The part he doubts is exactly the part he ought not to doubt – the Divine Reason . . . . We are on the road to producing a race of man too mentally modest to believe in the multiplication table.”<br />
(G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy, 1908)</p>
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		<title>John Patton &#8211; Quotable</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Being entirely at the mercy of such doubtful and vacillating friends, I, though perplexed, felt it best to obey. I climbed into the tree and was left there alone in the bush. The hours I spent there live all before me as if it were but of yesterday. I heard the frequent discharging of muskets, [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://treadinggrain.com/2011/john-patton-quotable/john-patton/" rel="attachment wp-att-5177"><img src="http://treadinggrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/john-patton-150x150.jpg" alt="" title="john patton" width="150" height="150" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-5177" /></a>&#8220;Being entirely at the mercy of such doubtful and vacillating friends, I, though perplexed, felt it best to obey. I climbed into the tree and was left there alone in the bush. The hours I spent there live all before me as if it were but of yesterday. I heard the frequent discharging of muskets, and the yells of the Savages. Yet I sat there among the branches, as safe in the arms of Jesus. Never, in all my sorrows, did my Lord draw nearer to me, and speak more soothingly in my soul, than when the moonlight flickered among these chestnut leaves, and the night air played on my throbbing brow, as I told all my heart to Jesus. Alone, yet not alone! If it be to glorify my God, I will not grudge to spend many nights alone in such a tree, to feel again my Savior’s spiritual presence, to enjoy His consoling fellowship. If thus thrown back upon your own soul, alone, all alone, in the midnight, in the bush, in the very embrace of death itself, have you a Friend that will not fail you then?&#8221;</p>
<p><em>John G. Patton: Missionary to the New Hebredies, An Autobiography Edited by His Brother [Edinburgh: The Banner of Truth Trust, 1965, orig. 1889, 1891], p. 200</em></p>
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		<title>&#8220;Forgive Me&#8221; or &#8220;Excuse Me&#8221;?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 10:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[From C.S. Lewis: There is all the difference in the world between forgiving and excusing. Forgiveness says “Yes, you have done this thing, but I accept your apology; I will never hold it against you and everything between us two will be exactly as it was before.”But excusing says “I see that you couldn’t help [...]]]></description>
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<p>From C.S. Lewis:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">There is all the difference in the world between forgiving and excusing. Forgiveness says “Yes, you have done this thing, but I accept your apology; I will never hold it against you and everything between us two will be exactly as it was before.”But excusing says “I see that you couldn’t help it or didn’t mean it; you weren’t really to blame.” If one was not really to blame then there is nothing to forgive. In that sense forgiveness and excusing are almost opposites.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Of course, in dozens of cases, either between God and man, or between one man and another, there may be a mixture of the two. Part of what seemed at first to be the sins turns out to be really nobody’s fault and is excused; the bit that is left over is forgiven. If you had a perfect excuse, you would not need forgiveness; if the whole of your action needs forgiveness, then there was no excuse for it. But the trouble is that what we call “asking God’s forgiveness” very often really consists in asking God to accept our excuses.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">What leads us into this mistake is the fact that there usually is some amount of excuse, some “extenuating circumstances.” We are so very anxious to point these out to God (and to ourselves) that we are apt to forget the really important thing; that is, the bit left over, the bit which the excuses don’t cover, the bit which is inexcusable but not, thank God, unforgivable. And if we forget this, we shall go away imagining that we have repented and been forgiven when all that has really happened is that we have satisfied ourselves with our own excuses. They may be very bad excuses; we are all too easily satisfied about ourselves.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">There are two remedies for this danger. One is to remember that God knows all the real excuses very much better than we do. If there are real “extenuating circumstances” there is no fear that he will overlook them. Often he must know many excuses that we have never thought of, and therefore, humble souls will, after death, have the delightful surprise of discovering that on certain occasions they sinned much less than they had thought. All the real excusing he will do.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">What we have got to take to him is the inexcusable bit, the sin. We are only wasting time by talking about all the parts which can (we think) be excused. When you go to a doctor you show him the bit of you that is wrong – say, a broken arm. It would be a mere waste of time to keep on explaining that your legs and eyes and throat are all right. You may be mistaken in thinking so, and anyway, if they are really all right, the doctor will know that.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The second remedy is really and truly to believe in the forgiveness of sins. A great deal of our anxiety to make excuses comes from not really believing in it, from thinking that God will not take us to himself again unless he is satisfied that some sort of case can be made out in our favor. But that would not be forgiveness at all.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Real forgiveness means looking steadily at the sin, the sin that is left over without any excuse, after all allowances have been made, and seeing it in all its horror, dirt, meanness, and malice, and nevertheless being wholly reconciled to the man who has done it. That, and only that, is forgiveness, and that we can always have from God if we ask for it.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- C.S. Lewis, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060653205?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=redletters-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0060653205" target="_blank"><em>The Weight of Glory</em></a><em>, </em>178-81</p>
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		<title>Chesterton on Humility</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
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<p>I ran across this quote from my sermon prep this past week and while I did not use it, it was too good to waste.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;">What we suffer from today is humility in the wrong place. Modesty has moved from the organ of ambition. Modesty has settled upon the organ of conviction; where it was never meant to be. A man was meant to be doubtful about himself, but undoubting about the truth; this has been exactly reversed. Nowadays the part of a man that a man does assert is exactly the part he ought not to assert—himself. The part he doubts is exactly the part he ought not to doubt—the Divine Reason.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px; text-align: right;">G.K. Chesterton, <em>Orthodoxy</em>, p. 55</p>
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		<title>Quote of The Day</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 14:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The message of the gospel is a noise, not a communication, until God tunes the set of man’s heart. ~Arthur C. Custance.]]></description>
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<p><em>The message of the gospel is a noise, not a communication, until God tunes the set of man’s heart.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: right;">~Arthur C. Custance.</p>
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		<title>Political Philosophy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These quotes are excerpted from Ronald Reagan&#8217;s speech (known as &#8220;The Speech&#8221;), &#8220;A Time for Choosing&#8221;, given 27 October 1964.  Surprising how relevant they still are: This is the issue of this election: Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite [...]]]></description>
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<p>These quotes are excerpted from Ronald Reagan&#8217;s speech (known as &#8220;The Speech&#8221;), &#8220;A Time for Choosing&#8221;, given 27 October 1964.  Surprising how relevant they still are:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><a href="http://treadinggrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ronald-reagan3.gif"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-4087" title="ronald-reagan" src="http://treadinggrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ronald-reagan3-150x150.gif" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>This is the issue of this election: Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capitol can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">We have so many people who can&#8217;t see a fat man standing beside a thin one without coming to the conclusion the fat man got that way by taking advantage of the thin one. So they&#8217;re going to solve all the problems of human misery through government and government planning. Well, now, if government planning and welfare had the answer—and they&#8217;ve had almost 30 years of it—shouldn&#8217;t we expect government to read the score to us once in a while? Shouldn&#8217;t they be telling us about the decline each year in the number of people needing help? The reduction in the need for public housing? But the reverse is true. Each year the need grows greater; the program grows greater.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Yet anytime you and I question the schemes of the do-gooders, we&#8217;re denounced as being against their humanitarian goals. They say we&#8217;re always &#8220;against&#8221; things—we&#8217;re never &#8220;for&#8221; anything.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. So governments&#8217; programs, once launched, never disappear.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we&#8217;ll ever see on this earth.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><a href="http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/reference/timechoosing.html">Read the rest</a></p>
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		<title>T. F. Torrance on the Cross of Christ</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A great quote from T. F. Torrance in his article, &#8220;The Hypostatic Union&#8221;: It is important to see that if the Deity of Christ is denied, then the Cross becomes a terrible monstrosity. If Jesus Christ is man only and not also God, then we lose faith in God and man. We lose faith in [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://treadinggrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/150px-TF_Torrance_Sketch.jpg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-4076" title="150px-TF_Torrance_Sketch" src="http://treadinggrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/150px-TF_Torrance_Sketch-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>A great quote from T. F. Torrance in his article, &#8220;The Hypostatic Union&#8221;:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">It is important to see that if the Deity of Christ is denied, then the Cross becomes a terrible monstrosity.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">If Jesus Christ is man only and not also God, then we lose faith in God and man.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">We lose faith in God because we could not believe in a God who allows the best man that ever lived to be hounded to death on the Cross—is that all that God cares about our humanity and its search after God, after truth and righteousness and peace?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Put Jesus Christ a man on the Cross, and put God in heaven, like some Mohammedan deity imprisoned in His own lonely abstract Deity—and you cannot believe in Him, in such a god who is monstrously unconcerned with our life, and who does not even lift a finger to help Jesus.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">But if you deny the Deity of Christ we lose faith in man also, for that means that man is such that when he sees the very best, the very highest and noblest the world has ever known, he crucifies it in spite, and will have nothing to do with it except to hate it.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Put God in heaven, and Jesus a man only on the Cross, and you destroy all hope and trust, and preach a doctrine of the blackest and most abysmal despair.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Denial of the Deity of Christ destroys faith in God and in man, and turns the Cross into the bottomless pit of darkness.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">But put God on the Cross, and the Cross becomes the world’s salvation.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">All the Gospel rests upon the fact that it is God who became Incarnate, and it was God who in Christ has reconciled the world to Himself.</p>
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		<title>People Do Not Drift Towards Holiness</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great, unused, quote from my sermon prep: People do not drift toward holiness. Apart from grace-driven effort, people do not gravitate toward godliness, prayer, and obedience to Scripture, faith, and delight in the Lord. We drift toward compromise and call it tolerance; we drift toward disobedience and call it freedom; we drift toward superstition and [...]]]></description>
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<p>Great, unused, quote from my sermon prep:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">People do not drift toward holiness. Apart from grace-driven effort, people do not gravitate toward godliness, prayer, and obedience to Scripture, faith, and delight in the Lord. We drift toward compromise and call it tolerance; we drift toward disobedience and call it freedom; we drift toward superstition and call it faith. We cherish the indiscipline of lost self-control and call it relaxation; we slouch toward prayerlessness and delude ourselves into thinking we have escaped legalism; we slide toward godlessness and convince ourselves we have been liberated.</p>
<p style="text-align: right;">D.A. Carson, <strong><em>F</em></strong><em><strong>or the Love of God, Vol. 2</strong></em> (via Danny)</p>
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